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2nd Working holiday visa requirements: Farm work, 88 days, specified work. Everything you need to know!
Breaking news:
Effective July 1, 2024, UK passport holders are eligible for up to three working holiday visas without needing to meet any specific work requirements. With other words: No more farm work for UK citizens! You can even apply if you have done working holiday before! Age limit till 35 years still applies!
Current working holiday makers from UK with visa expiration after the 1st of July 2024 will also be exempted doing specified work! YAY!
Hello dear backpackers!
Once your first working holiday visa is about to expire, you might choose to extend your stay for the second year. As of July 2019, it is also possible to apply for a Third Working Holiday Visa after completing the requirement for the second one.
To be eligible for the second Visa, you must have completed a minimum of 88 days of specified work during your first Working Holiday Visa. Similarly, to be eligible for the Third Visa, you need to have undertaken 179 days of specified work during your Second Working Holiday Visa in Australia.
What is specified work, also famously known as “farm work” and how to count it correctly?
Basically, it just means working 88 days in regional areas of Australia. In this blog post will provide guidance on how to calculate the required work days properly, approval time and address any potential challenges you may face when extending your Working Holiday Visa.
Furthermore, I will show you what work counts and what doesn’t and what you need to submit in your ImmiAccount (Immigration Account).
Likewise, I will show you what you need to do to stay legally in Australia once your visa expired, and you have to wait for your 2nd working holiday visa approval!
Important: No need to start your second year working holiday right away!
Take your time! You don’t need to do your second working holiday year in Australia, RIGHT after the first year (without leaving Australia). You can make a big break and just apply later! Just remember that the age limits requirements still count here, like for first working holiday visa.
For instance, if you are already abroad (left Australia, traveling in SEA, left for home etc.) you can apply again via your ImmiAccount, submit all requirements, which usually is payslips (proof of 88 days of work) and maybe health examinations and enter Australia later again before the age of 30, some countries 35.
Recap: Overview of your working holiday journey
- Part 1 is all about visa requirements and eligibility for your working holiday in Australia (read before coming to Australia)
- >>Part 1.1 I lead you step-by-step with screenshots through the official working holiday visa application!
- Part 2 is all about relevant working terms to get started in your first days in Australia. I show you Australia’s minimum wage, what TFN, ABN, RSA, SUPER etc. is and where to apply in order to work legally in Australia.
- Part 3 is all about pay rates and work. I show you my payslips, what I earned, and you can too in 2024! I show you all special occasions where you can earn more money!
- Part 4 is all about finding typical backpacker jobs and pay rates. I show you all relevant ways, platforms, and websites where you can find jobs and as well as typical pay rates!
- Part 5 (this part) is all about extending your working holiday visa in Australia and the required 88 days of specified work! (Farm work)
Approval time Second Working Holiday Visa: Bridging Visa to stay legal in Australia
Regarding the Australian government, it takes anything from 14 to 40 days till your second working holiday visa gets approved. This is the official version. I made the experience that, similar to the first working holiday visa, it can take anything from 5 min to a couple of days if you are lucky! Whatever it takes, at this time you must be on a bridging visa to stay legal in Australia.
The good news is that you can continue working on a bridging visa A while you are waiting to get your second visa approved. In case your visa application get rejected, you stayed at least legally in Australia.
Additionally, you still can stay legal 28 days after the rejection till you need to leave Australia for good!
When and how to get a bridging visa?
Contrary to the first working holiday visa where you must be outside Australia to apply, you can continue your 2nd working holiday year in Australia without leaving the country! That means you can get apply up to one day before your first working holiday visa expires!
The bridging visa for your working holiday extension is marked with the letter A in your ImmiAccount. Typically, it will show up automatically, once you applied. So just take a look in “My applications” at your ImmiAccount to confirm that it shows that you are “bridging”.
Important: If you plan to extend your stay without the intention of extending your working holiday in Australia, you need to apply for other bridging visas. In this case you need to apply manually as bridging visa A is reserved for the case that you extend your working holiday visa while being in Australia.
Second Working Holiday Visa Requirements: 88 days (updated June 2024)
First things first. Please guys, IF you already know that you want to stay at least 2 years in Australia I highly recommend you do your “specified work” also known as farm work as soon as possible and not last minute like me…
Basic requirements for both subclasses 417 & 462
The major difference besides the 88 days of specified work for your second working holiday visa is that you don’t have to be outside Australia, unlike in your first application.
The rest keeps exactly the same for both subclasses. You can look it up again in my first part of this Australia series.
Here’s a short summary of the requirements for the 2nd visa:
- 88 days or 3 months of specified work
- Have $5000 on your account to prove that you can afford your stay/leave (It’s saying on the official immigration page, even though they most likely NOT check it! If they do check it for some reason, then you know what to do ask a friend or family to borrow it, make a screenshot with the money on your account to upload and send the money back after uploading! No worries!)
- Again $635 for the 2nd working holiday visa (updated June 2024) + Credit Card surcharge fee. Get the best Credit Cards here (Germans only). But definitely get a Wise account here!
- Passport validity at least 2 years (or at least end of your stay)
- International travel insurance for your stay. Get the best travel insurance here! You are German? Than get travel insurance here!
- Age limit still applies: Subclass 417 up to 30 years old some countries 35; subclass 462 up to 30 years old
- Still no accompanied children and family members allowed
- If in Australia, hold a valid visa or your last official visa expired less than 28 days ago (you will have Bridging Visa A as discussed above)
- Eventually, health examinations and X-Ray ~$500. Your ImmiAccount will tell you. (It doesn’t matter if you are inside or outside Australia. I had to do the health examinations AGAIN in Australia for my second year)
What is specified work?
Specified work is basically regional work to support certain industries outside big cities in Australia. The most popular and well known job for this category under backpacker is of course farm work. But it doesn’t have to be farm work if you don’t want.
Here is a list of all supported industries:
- Tourism and hospitality in remote areas of Australia
- Agriculture in northern and regional Australia
- Fishing and pearling in northern Australia
- Tree farming and logging in northern Australia
- Construction in northern and regional Australia
- Bushfire recovery work in affected areas
- Natural disaster recovery work
- Critical COVID-19 work in healthcare sector in Australia.
>>Check out part 4 of my Australia series to find all kind of jobs
Here can find a full list of all specific jobs from the official page for your subclass:
Qualified post codes and work
Don’t worry, usually job vacancies are mentioning if it counts for your second (or third) working holiday visa. But if you are looking for something specific, you can check all supported post codes sorted by states down below:
How to count my days correctly: Piece rate and full-time work + Examples
Calculating the 88 days for “Specified Work” is crucial for securing your Working Holiday Visa extension. In the following all terms, ways of counting and your allowances for your specified work will be explained followed by some real world examples.
Which employment records to keep for evidence of working?
While applying for your second working holiday visa you need to upload the payslips which you get from your employer on a weekly or fortnightly bases (every two weeks) per E-mail or Paperwork. Make sure that your payslip state at least the ABN and name from of employer, the pay rate and pay period. Always check your payslips, as these are your main evidence that you really worked 88 days.
I recommend you to photograph and uploading them in the cloud (I use Dropbox) in case it’s not sent per e-mail.
What is the “piece rate”?
The so-called “piece rate” is a contract in which you are paid according to your speed and amount you picked, therefore usually applied when doing farm work with fruits and vegetables. In this case, you do not receive a fixed wage, not even minimum wage (if you are too slow).
Moreover, your employer and you must specify each day individually on paper, so that you can count it for your 88 days and your exact payment (see pic above for counting).
Calculating Days and Hours (Including “Piece Rate”): Best case scenario
The goal is to complete the same number of normal work days or shifts as a full-time employee in that role and industry over a three-month period (88 calendar days). Full-time means between 35h-40h per week. You can achieve this in several ways:
- Work five days a week 8h shifts continuously for three calendar months. This applies even if you’re on a “piece rate” agreement, as long as you meet the required number of days per week. So in total you work even less than 88 days (5 times per week for 3 months ~ 5 days per week ~ 20 days per month ~ 60 days in three months). BUT this is just theoretical because most likely there will be holidays, you will eventually be sick, it will be raining etc. This is already the best case scenario!
- Work fewer than five days per week over a period exceeding three calendar months, including under a “piece rate” agreement.
- Work multiple short periods in any combination of full-time, part-time, or “piece rate” work, adding up to five days per week over three calendar months
Flexibility in Working Days and Employers
- You’re not obligated to complete your three months of “specified work” all at once or with a single employer. Change the employer as you want!
- Feel free to spread the work over your stay in Australia, and you can even work more than the minimum three months. This is even obligatory for the third working holiday visa (179 days)
- However, only work completed during your first Working Holiday Visa counts toward eligibility for the second visa.
Counting Days for Full-Time/Casual/Piece Rate Jobs
- If you work full-time or equivalent hours in another employment relationship, including casual or piece rate work, and work at least five days a week, you can count your two days off per week toward the five-day requirement. The five-day requirement = counted for 7 days worked. Miss 5 days and you count it as it is!
- Keep in mind the industry’s standard practices when applying this rule. For instance, if you work in mining with a two-week work, two-week break cycle, you can count the entire two-week break toward your 88 days.
Real Life Examples
- Personal example: Me (Eduard) works full-time (we worked 8-10h daily unless it was raining) on a piece rate agreement, which is always on a casual basis. We just look here week by week (or even day by day) because as you learned before, we have the flexibility to choose our employer on a daily basis. On farm work you typically work EVERYDAY for the same employer so you can’t always apply the best scenario, which is working 5 days and counting 7 days, because you work 7 days anyway. If You work 5 days while doing farm work, than YES you can count the best case scenario which is counting 7 for just 5 days of working. Let‘s count: We count here 4 days in total for this week (3/12 it’s just what they forget to pay and added in this payslip, but the 3/12 still counts as a day, BUT not for this payslip in this counting week). I hope it makes sense! 30/12 is just a bonus added from the employer.
- Example 2: Maria works full-time for three months without interruption and completes 88 calendar days, meeting the required number of days.
- Example 3: Sophia works two days a week for three months but falls short of the required hours, thus not meeting the requirement to extend the visa. She will need around 44 weeks or 10 months to reach 88 days to qualify for the second working holiday visa if she holds this pace, which is also fine but difficult to realize!
- Example 4: Margarite works irregular hours as a casual employee, averaging 20 hours per week, and does not meet the required number of days after three months. 20 hours would be three days per week, that means Margarite will need. She will need much more time too!
Understanding these calculations and scenarios is essential for ensuring your eligibility for the working holiday visa extension.
Employer problems that can occur during 88 days of farm work
- Issue with your employer regarding minimum wage.
Like I already said it in my previous posts, never work less than minimum wage, which is exactly $24.10 from July 2024. With the casual job load of 25% it should be around $30. It’s also important for your day counting, as just minimum wage payment is accepted as full day, so you can count that day for your 88 days!
Excluded is a contract based on piece rate. This one depends completely on you! I think once I earned $5 in a full work day. Shit happens! Just don’t let it discourage you. Show must go on!
- Serious problems with your employer regarding exploitation and abuse
This can be everything from irregular payment, unpaid work, payment less than minimum wage, no payslips for your 88 days, scams, sexual harassment, problems with co-workers the list goes on. I’ve heard it all!
Never forget that you can leave any time if you feel treated badly! Definitely refer to Fairwork. It is a government authority that can help with all matters concerning work, minimum wage, unpaid wages and other issues with your employer. It’s quite powerful in Australia, as I’ve heard! I would undoubtedly call as soon as possible!
Third Working Holiday Visa Australia
Yes, since July 2019, it’s reality! And guess what? The requirements are pretty much the same as for the second visa.
To qualify for the third Working Holiday Visa, you’ll need to clock in 179 calendar days of “specified work.” Now, that’s essentially six months of work during your second working holiday stay.
Oh, and one more thing: Don’t forget to double-check that you’re still not older than 30 years, in some countries 35 at the time of the application for the third working holiday visa.
Now, when it comes to the conditions and calculating those “specified work” days for the third Australia Visa, it’s pretty much the same drill as it was for the second working holiday visa.
Final thoughts and conclusion
Love it or hate it! Some backpacker JUST work on farms or remote regions, others struggle to find a decent job in the regional areas or just want to stay in bigger cities.
My tip: Don’t count the days and really try to enjoy the nature or rural area wherever you are! You will get back to the city faster than you think, or maybe change your mind by then and stay!
In the end, I think it will be good experience to do 88 days (more or less ;)) of farm work or similar. But it’s up to you! Just do it as fast as possible, so you can have the option to stay one more year in Australia, it’s definitely worth it! TRUST ME HERE.
And remember you are not alone! On the way you will find amazing people in the same situation, this will make it all much easier!
Now, If you want to find farm work or other regional work, check out my blog post about finding backpacker jobs here!
See you soon and happy travels!
Your Eduard from Clueless? Travel!
Overview of your working holiday journey
- Part 1 is all about visa requirements and eligibility for your working holiday in Australia (read before coming to Australia)
- >>Part 1.1 I lead you step-by-step with screenshots through the official working holiday visa application!
- Part 2 is all about relevant working terms to get started in your first days in Australia. I show you Australia’s minimum wage, what TFN, ABN, RSA, SUPER etc. is and where to apply in order to work legally in Australia.
- Part 3 is all about pay rates and work. I show you my payslips, what I earned, and you can too in 2024! I show you all special occasions where you can earn more money!
- Part 4 is all about finding typical backpacker jobs and pay rates. I show you all relevant ways, platforms, and websites where you can find jobs and as well as typical pay rates!
- Part 5 is all about extending your working holiday visa in Australia and the required 88 days of specified work! (Farm work)
What’s next in your journey?
For working holiday starters:
- Apply for the working holiday maker visa subclass 417 (usual approval time 1 min – 14 days) or 462 (usual approval time at least 14 days due to further requirements)
- Provide further details if necessary to get the application going (health examination etc.) in your immigration account (ImmiAccount)
- Get credit cards, especially a Wise account (Australian bank account) and check passport validity! (min. 2 weeks – 1 month before you plan to flight)
- Book your flights (AFTER received approval letter from immigration)
- Packing list 2024 (Coming soon)
- Get an adventure travel insurance for your whole stay before you fly (SavetyWing or Heymondo). From Germany? Get travel insurance here!
- Get an Onward ticket ALWAYS! (24-48h before your flight, evidence of leaving the country you enter). For working holiday Australia visa holders, it’s NOT necessary.
- Book your accommodation via hostelworld to get to know people quickly. I recommend the first two weeks at the same spot
- Job hunting and other bureaucratic stuff (once in Australia)
- Open up your US LLC to get your Freelancer business started!
- Sign up to my Newsletter to get a smarter traveler and stay up-to-date
For digital nomad starters:
- Open up your US LLC to get your Freelancer business started! (4 weeks before your trip)
- Get credit cards and check passport validity! (min. 2 weeks – 1 month before you plan to flight)
- Apply for possible longer stays like digital nomad visa or extended visa (typically 2 months before your flight)
- Book your flights
- Packing list 2024 (Coming soon)
- Get travel insurance before you fly (SavetyWing or Heymondo). From Germany? Get travel insurance here!
- Get an Onward ticket 24-48h before your flight (evidence of leaving the country you enter, ALWAYS!). If you have a visa, it’s not necessary!
- Book your accommodation via hostelworld to get to know people quickly. I recommend the first week in one spot
- Sign up to my Newsletter to get a smarter traveler and stay up-to-date